迪奥与我

记录片法国2014

主演:Raf Simons

导演:Frédéric Tcheng

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更新时间:2023-12-02 20:33

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  第一部纪录Raf Simons 入主巴黎老牌时装屋Christian Dior 迪奥的纪录片将于4月17日Tribeca Film Festival 翠贝卡电影节期间作全球首映,并参与Tribeca 翠贝卡世界纪录片竞赛单元。  名为《Dior et moi(英译Dior and I,中译Dior 与我)》的纪录电影追踪了Raf Simons 加盟Christian Dior 迪奥后创造首个高级定制系列的全过程。由Frédéric Tcheng 执导的该片让外界得以窥视一个时装系列诞生的背后,一群热忱、迷人和幽默的协作者之间对工作的真挚投入,是对高级时装屋作坊中的裁缝们的生动致敬。

 长篇影评

 1 ) 我与Dior的华丽邂逅


知道这部电影是在今年二月的时候,加拿大的一个好友发了一段电影片段给我看,也就是电影中,开秀前几天,Raf和几位Atelier喝香槟的段落,于是这部电影就成为今年必看的纪录片。为了Dior,更是为了Raf Simons.

相信很多时尚爱好者对Dior的关注,不仅是为其强大的品牌公关宣传能力,更是因为它的前任创意总监——John Galliano, John在位期间,每一系列,尤其是高级定制总能戳中很多人的时尚G点。其笔下的Haunt Couture有我们对高定的全部想念:大裙摆,华丽刺绣,dramatic,不同的国家的文化精髓,甚至是John每一次的谢幕装扮都是每季的talk of the town,为他赢得海盗爷的称号。是他挽救了Dior这艘60几年的航船进入一个新纪元;Galliano的设计是我对时尚行业的启蒙;也是Galliano让我对Simons一度无感,甚至排斥他的设计。

当12年LVHM集团宣布把Simons招入麾下的时候,着实和大部分人一样,对这个名字很陌生,就像电影中Dior的工作人员说的一样,很多人对Simons的了解,是那些报道男装的人,虽然知道Jil Sander这个极简牌子,但也不是每一季都follow,也没有关注这个低调的设计师.所以,第一个HC系列出来的时候,同样,和大部分网友一样觉得太素了,很Clean,但不像高定,很多人甚至发出Dior已死,再也回不到过去的言论,与国外style.com, WWD等主流媒体一致叫好声对比,一度认为是不是自己的审美和主流差太大。当第一个成衣系列出来的时候,更是失望至极,当时就和朋友说这种极简的裁剪很适合Jil Sander,但不是Dior的。以至于后来每一季出来的时候,就一直有很多呼唤Galliano的声音。同时,某家杂志采访Simons,问他对Galliano的看法,他说很欣赏Galliano的设计,但是他的设计是来束缚女性的,而当代的女性需要更多的释放和自由。当时就想,妈的,这么狂但是这么正确。

Simons本人是学工业设计出身的,所以无论在他本人的男装品牌还是女装中,都有着凌冽的裁剪,一刀不多。所以无论对于Dior的拥趸还是客户群体来说,要适应Simons的设计确实需要一段时间,到现在虽不能说百分之百理解喜欢他的理念,至少开始慢慢接受而且觉得有趣。

回到电影本身,看过的时尚纪录片不多,《九月刊》,《眼睛要旅行》,《我为比尔盛装》,这些纪录片褪去了人们眼中时装圈华丽浮华的外衣,展现这个工业内,一群执着认真的Greek们的执念,本片也不例外。最感动的部分则是Atelier们出于极大的热爱和对Dior先生,这个品牌的敬意,而长达几年,数十年的忠诚,毫无怨言的加班,为客户修改衣服全球飞,夹在客户与设计师中间。就像Hong-Bo说的,创意总监们来来去去,唯有Atelier不变。品牌的精髓文化财富都集中在工作坊内,因为有了Atelier,才可能实现设计师们各种天马行空的创意,各种高超的手艺才配的上动辄2万欧元起跳的价格。另外我最羡慕Raf的,是他有一位十年如一日陪在身边的right hand, Pieter。从自己品牌的创立到Jil Sander, 到Dior,共同进退,支持,难怪在CAFD的颁奖仪式上,Raf提到Pieter泣不成声。他是Raf各种idea的执行者,是在Raf与Atelier们之间的共同桥梁,是Raf紧张失意时的肩膀。Pieter在为Raf处理各项事宜与人际关系时,有Gay们专属的细腻,有这样一位永远在背后支持的Partner, Who can ask for more?

上面说到我觉得Raf的设计很有趣,是的,他至少有做到有创意,有辨识度,除去第一季向Dior先生致敬,全场都是经典元素外,在后来的系列中,这些元素巧妙的融汇其中。13年春夏的Flower garden, 13秋冬的Continent Collection, 14年春夏的镂空设计,秋冬的jumpsuit, court coat等,他做到了不重复。每当高定周出来的时候,热门微博总是分享Elli Saab, Armani,Valentino等传统看来很美的品牌,各种留言都是美Cry,我也认为很美,女明星走红毯一定秒杀菲林无数。但是看多了,真是觉得闷。高级定制最能体现一个设计师的原创才华,一个品牌的创新能力,仅仅能设计美又华丽的裙子是不行的,Bill Gaytten在Galliano离职后曾短暂担任总监一职,12年春夏的设计在包括我很多人看来都非常美,可是不够经典,Bill打的都是安全牌,所以各大评论就说了,虽然很美也会卖得很好,但是也看得出Bill不可能被选为新任创意总监。很多人说raf的设计好丑,怎么卖的出去,放心,高级定制本来就是客户爱怎么改怎么改,你要有钱custom made设计一条都可以,客户看中的是设计师的创意能力。Raf在interview杂志中,回答时装评论员Tim Blanks就说过,他也能设计出30米长的裙子,下个系列中出现75米的都可以,但这没有意义。时间流走,品牌不能只顾着原来的客户,要发觉新的客户群体,这部分年轻的客户,他们对高定的要求不再是偶尔在晚宴,红毯中穿一次,而是可以和日装,甚至高街设计搭配在一起,经常穿。所以Raf一直在研究Dior的客户,听他们需要什么,所以即使认为他的设计再丑,也不妨碍他上任后,蹭蹭上涨的销售额,尤其是在日本,经济衰退的情况下,Dior持续上涨。LVHM集团的太子Antoine Arnault说过,服装设计师不是艺术家,而是商人,你要当艺术家你去做雕塑家,画家,服装设计师的职责就是要确保设计出来的东西都换成真金白银。故LV前设计师Marc Jacobs从不怕谈销售额。

当然,除此之外,一个品牌要长远的发展,是需要承继其精髓和文化,精神。同样,我认为Raf做得很好,而且他将会做得更好,洪晃说过奢侈品就是一种有巨大市场为依托的高级手工艺,所以与其把他们作为炫富的工具,倒不如去了解品牌的历史,这些历史不仅仅是公关的软文,是一群人对于美的追求和不懈。

 2 ) 我所喜爱的Raf和Raf For Dior

曾看过2015春夏成衣发布后关于Raf的访谈,他说他之于Dior,只是一个过路人,来了总有离开的一日,他不可能当自己当做Christian Dior,而是用自己的方式传承。没想到,这一天来得如此之突然。
我接触时尚的时间很短,当我还不认识Raf时,已经看过他的2014秋冬高定,那是一个被兰花包围的秀场,白的发亮,模特们身着有着工装元素维多利亚式的大裙摆礼服鱼贯而出,仿佛一场神圣的仪式,关于历史与现代的交织转换。最后他从门中走出示意快速挥手,又快速的返回后台。从那时起,我喜欢上了他,喜欢上了他的Dior。
历史永远作为他的灵感来源,追溯过去才能更好的认识未来。他将品牌历史和自身风格结合,在第一场高级定制发布会上,现场被布置成花海,向热爱花卉的Christian Dior先生致敬,New Look被更当代的呈现,里面既有1947年的遗风,又有他喜爱艺术元素的运用。Bar Jacket被改造成简洁的西装轮廓,沙漏型裙装印上Sterling Ruby的扎染图案,礼服裙的下摆以裤装代替,优雅又轻便。2015秋冬高级定制从美术史上的弗拉芒画派汲取灵感,在罗丹美术馆打造了一座禁欲花园,“我一直对禁果这一理念,以及它在当下的意义深感兴趣”,他阐述道。“纯洁和无辜是丰腴与颓废的对立面,而这些概念已在Dior花园中得以展示:这并不是一座百花盛开的花园,而是一座充满性别特征的花园。本系列的设计灵感源自弗拉芒艺术大师以及他们的绘画方式:这种张力源自我们既鄙夷又珍爱的奢华理念,源自艺术创作中对技术与美的完全掌控,源自这种既真实又虚幻的美感。两者相依共生,缺一不可。
除了回顾,他也有所展望,他的设计从不缺乏未来感,致敬David Bowie的2015春夏高级定制就是完成了月球上的一次漫步,刚刚结束的2016春夏成衣则是薰衣草星球的纯粹轻盈;曾经为Jil Sander工作的经历,“极简主义”的标签始终挂在他的身上,他便将浪漫与女性化用摩登的方式表现。他也常被批评将高级时装过分日常化,却无视了他在工艺与面料的探索的成果,原本与高级无关的PC塑料经过改造加上印花制成外套、远看是印花近看则是精致的刺绣、斜裁蕾丝镶嵌在连衣裙搭配轻纱的环状打褶。看似简单其实是复杂的技艺,高级时装不仅仅只是繁复和华丽,它也可以作为第二层肌肤的存在。Raf的想象力不仅限于纸上的图画,他深知工坊的巧手,帮助他实现瑰丽的梦。2016春夏成衣细节《Dior And I》里的他,做事近乎是苛求的态度,同时又是内向害羞,脆弱敏感的,当他看到自己的作品接受众人瞩目时,忍不住激动的泪水,拥在助手的肩上。这一次的巴黎时装周上,他谢幕时比出了桃心,他没有哭,也没有让人想到他会这样匆匆离开。
作为一名以先锋闻名的设计师,从Raf Simons到Jil Sander再到Dior,或许担任这样一个在全球规模地位举足轻重的品牌是个不小的活,一年六个系列限制了灵感,市场也许会使人忘记初心,Raf仍然是理智的,他知道自己是个过客,商业成功于他如浮云,也无法与创始人比肩才华,所以他选择了退出,无论是发展同名品牌,还是追逐生活以外的其他兴趣,他是坚持自己的心中所想,对他而言,是快乐的。
对我而言,Raf是我第一个喜欢的设计师,最符合当代时装精神的人,他对美的的判断和现代女性认知并不单单是一个角度,但他的作品始终是优雅的,即使有些造型并不是那么使人容易接受。他对我的影响,不单单是欣赏美,更重要的是,他为我指明了一条新的方向,如何在快速繁杂的生活仍然保持着冷静的态度,便是我今后努力的方向。
三年半,二十个系列,不能草率地盖棺论定他做得好还是不好,时间可以说明一切。
正如太阳只是宇宙中众多恒星的一颗,但它照耀了我,它便是我的太阳。
Raf何尝不是浩荡服装史里的匆匆一笔,对我而言就是我喜欢的Raf Simons。
For Raf For Dior

 3 ) Dior and I

The documentary tells a story about how Raf Simons, a newcomer, finds the balance between "inheriting the spiritual core of Dior" and "continuing his self-style", how he runs in with the artisans in the atelier, and how he breaks through his previous style to complete a whole collection of Haute Couture in a short period of time.

Christian Dior and Raf Simons were born in different eras, but they are similar in the way that they both uphold the idea that "contemporary women needs more release and freedom rather than bondage in clothes." Raf inherits this idea and shows his ambition of not being constrained by minimalism. After his innumerable insistent and alterations, his frowned face finally breaks into a smile. He said: “Sublime! Sublime!”

At the end of the show, everyone called out his name. He is indeed an excellent leader of the show. However, I believe the success is achieved by all people’s joint efforts -- himself, his assistant, and the whole studio of tailors. The tailors were suspicious of the newcomer at first because he was quiet and stubborn, and it is challenging for them to meet the requirements from both the clients and the creative leader at the same time. Fortunately, they are finally run-in with him and find the balance between the clients and the designer. But I know all along that Raf was carrying the most weight and under a large pressure so that I almost cried when he did at the end.

I strongly respect the designer Raf Simons and the tailors in the atelier, the old people with their craftmanship spirits dedicated their whole life to the brand. They work in the atelier with their dreams, feelings, insistence towards fashion, and the exquisite craftsmanship. By seeing their earnest expressions when threading needles, as well as the way they tease each other to relieve stress under heavy pressure, I feel that this is an atelier with full of human kindness. Their hearts and lives are connected to fashion and Haute Couture. Therefore, I strongly hope that the people who buy Haute Couture are those who can really appreciate them as works of art, rather than people who just want to show their status.

 4 ) 时装记录片熏陶+1

收藏很久,第一次点开看。本以为是Dior本人纪录片,结果是Raf Simon刚上任第一场高定,乌龙了……还是看下去,本来也挺喜欢Raf的风格,虽然感觉他比较适合“戴着镣铐跳舞”,在各个品牌下面做的系列比自己品牌的要好看(个人感觉,喷就是你对😂

但是片子意外得有意思的,看一个新出炉的成衣设计师临时接过高定时装屋,在两个月内要交出一批秀场高定系列,要保留Dior风骨还要打破常规带来新风貌,很刺激。

大家性格都好可爱,时装屋里的裁缝阿姨们絮絮叨叨,会抱怨也会撒娇,更会认认真真缝制高定。小助手Pierre长得好像迪斯尼里的精灵,很贴心也很实干,能得一个工作坊的阿姨喜欢很说明问题了。Raf本人很平和亲近,坐正后方出各种idea,竟然还是个社恐,人太多压力大了会哭哈哈哈。了解品牌背后的人物故事还有秀场服装的一些设计理念(这部纪录片其实讲得不多)还是蛮有意思的。如果要看高定制作过程的细节,可以看Dior每季的官方宣传片,真的会被美到震撼!

然后学到了几点(可能无用的)知识:

1)工作坊是可以上门给客人调试高定礼服的,甚至从巴黎飞到纽约。

2)设计师本人不用画图纸,他出idea,助手找reference做moodboard,也每人画100多张图纸给他选,设计师从每人那选3-4张再做调整敲板,给到裁缝制作。衣服大致成型后会给模特上身,做版型调试。

3)高定竟然也是DDL驱动,大秀前一晚还在拆裙子从头做,到秀前最后十几分钟还在给礼服修修补补、调整细节。准备的过程也是兵荒马乱,会各种出错

4)不知道是不是Dior本身秀场次多时间赶的问题,只有2个月准备时间,而成衣秀可以多2个月。

 5 ) Pieter Mulie:Raf在Dior的右手

看完纪录片的人对助理Pieter印象都会很深,作为Raf背后的男人,帮他打理大大小小的事务,代替Raf和atelier们沟通,打好关系,温柔又可爱,假如每个设计师都有个这样的助理简直就是无敌黄金搭档了。

网上关于Pieter Mulie的资料少得可怜,只搜到纪录片上映前在AnOther的一篇访谈。

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Pieter Mulier: Raf's Right Hand Man at Dior

Text: Kin Woo

One of the most memorable moments in Dior and I, Frédéric Tcheng’s revelatory new documentary on the intense eight weeks leading up to the showing of Raf Simons’s first couture collection for the house in spring 2012 – comes not from Simons at all but his right hand man and studio director, Pieter Mulier. Mulier is depicted indulging in some light flirting with both Florence Chehet, the première for the atelier flou and Monique Bailly, the première of the atelier tailleur. They coo over a pair of trousers he’s wearing and look visibly deflated when they learn he has a boyfriend. Mulier winces slightly when reminded of this, “That was a scene that I thought, 'Umm maybe not necessary!' But my mother saw it and said it was really funny.” Emerging as the secret breakout star of the movie, much like Grace Coddington did in The September Issue, perhaps what that scene illustrates is how vital Mulier is at Dior, acting as an intermediary between Simons and the atelier. Still he protests, “But it’s not really flirting, it’s more charm, you need to charm them a little bit, in a very respectful and honest way, to get this motor running, because it’s a really big engine. It’s 250 women and men preparing the collection in a very short time so a little bit of charm goes a long way.”

On working with Raf...
In person, Mulier is as magnetic as he is on screen – chiselled and elegant but with an impish sense of humour. Growing up in Belgium, Dior was to a teenage Mulier, “the biggest company in the world, and one of the most beautiful. My grandmother used to wear Dior, so I knew a little bit. I thought it was a company that represents beauty more than fashion.” After studying architecture at Belgium’s Royal Academy, he was invited by Simons to do an internship at his own label before returning in 2002 to work with him full time. “It evolved from being colleagues to a friendship now. I always think it’s like a ping pong game. He taught me a lot about art – you know his references are a lot of art and architecture – and luckily this is also my background so this helps and I think it works in both ways.”

On making the jump to womenswear at Dior...
While Dior would represent the first time he worked in womenswear after 10 years at Raf and a 4 year stint at Jil Sander as director of accessories, Mulier jumped at the chance. “I was always dreaming of working at an atelier. So when they asked me I said yes immediately, because it’s the most beautiful workroom in the world and it’s the only place that still does couture as it was done in the 40s and 50s. And I love the sense of family. Everybody knows each other here.” Looking at the archives would also prove his instincts right: “People always think that Dior is more dresses but when you go into the archive, it’s actually not. The revolution was in the tailoring, in the shoulder, in the waist and in the breast, so on that level is very close to menswear. Monsieur Dior himself was also a tailor, he loved wools more than chiffon. So on that level it was not that difficult. And also I think creativity is creativity so if you put boundaries on what you know then that limits. But I still have a lot to learn, at least another ten years there.”

The lure of couture...
In three years since taking over the house, Simons has redefined Dior as a contemporary concern, with couture as the purest expression of his vision. Says Mulier, “I think that couture is pure luxury because everything is possible. And the client is much more open, she’s looking for something that doesn’t exist, she’s looking for something that’s exquisite.” Working in the ‘laboratory’ at Dior with the petit mains at the ateliers, Mulier is constantly struck by their dedication to their craft. “They will always say yes and they will always try, but you need to challenge them. For them, everything is possible and they’re not afraid of anything.” Impending notoriety bestowed by the film’s rave reviews notwithstanding, what Mulier loves best about his role at Dior is the human interaction: “Being responsible for the studio which is all creative people and then working with the ateliers where there are no egos and it is all about teamwork – that’s the beauty of what I do.”

原文链接:http://www.anothermag.com/fashion-beauty/7187/pieter-mulier-rafs-right-hand-man-at-dior

 6 ) 由于超过短评字数限制而被迫改成了影评的影评

看完了电影赶快去恶补了一下Raf Simon来Dior后的第一场高定,果然和人们的评价一样,和海盗爷相比Raf的设计朴素了点。但是!!!当年排斥Raf的设计有多狠,现在再看到Maria阿姨做的东西,就有多“真香”!!有了Maria阿姨,现在人们对Raf的评价都从“朴素”变成了“简单却闷骚”了呢哈哈哈哈...

话回到这部电影,我是真的喜欢!整个电影好真实地展现了一场高定的诞生,从designer在画展找到idea,到一步一步选布料,把布料做好,拼接起来,再拆开,几乎重新开始再做一遍,每一步都真的真的精益求精。电影最后几幕,Raf看到整场秀的成功,感动得娇滴滴哭的时候太戳我的泪点了!Raf真的不容易,顶着压力经过海盗爷之手接过Dior,人们当时也都等着看Raf能不能扛得起这面大旗,啊哇哇他真的是小可怜...

我记得他在准备这场HC的时候讲了一句话,“The first runaway that I do at Dior, I want all the girls to be comfortable.” Raf还会考虑到模特穿着的舒适度,这还真的有暖到我,Raf小可爱太好了!!

 短评

Raf 在show开场前压力硕大的落泪了,后来show结束后又哭了感觉这点感觉好萌。他的搭档可真是好啊,各种耐心好脾气。dior里的那个premiere在show结束还对他说“干脆把让我做你旁边办公吧”真是太可爱了。有这么群个性的员工,真是好啊~~~那一屋一屋的鲜花我真替预算捏汗啊~

10分钟前
  • UrthónaD'Mors
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时尚是造梦的行业,但梦想的实现也需要一针一线的坚持。

13分钟前
  • Mian
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大开眼界,原来高级定制是从这些小作坊里出来的,而且顶尖的设计师和裁缝们竟然每天穿着白大褂

16分钟前
  • tunight
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感觉我对raf simon这种性格的人蛮容易动心。

17分钟前
  • ddm
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Raf Simons和迪奥工坊的匠人们。

21分钟前
  • mumudancing
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这就是时尚

23分钟前
  • 午夜滴长岛冰茶
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4.5穿插著Christian dior先生和Raf simons在不同年代,卻是同一年紀同樣處境的內心獨白。他們的童年都有各種「flowers dream」,一個影響著設計理念的大花園,以及那一望無際的海。我喜歡這樣悶騷的設計師,他在遇到困難時很絕決,在設計時很堅持,在秀前天馬星空,在秀中哭得像個孩子,真實如Dior。

26分钟前
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woooolalala wooooooo

27分钟前
  • 办公室甜心
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LVMH当年为了推Raf Simons真是不遗余力,他们成功了,从此对Raf路人转粉

32分钟前
  • Merov Mugatu!
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那个西瓜皮没有得到预想的反应,设计师哭了。还有最后的经典款型,赞声一片。其实真正的那些主编,那些贵妇,未必能够理解设计师的。还有这个设计师面对大老板还是谨小慎微的,但也坚持着自己的一些底线和原则。真不容易啊,即使已经如此大牌了。

37分钟前
  • Sabrina
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一流的工匠精神,一流的职人态度。

41分钟前
  • shininglove
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RAF真是内心温暖的小公举!!!!

44分钟前
  • Dita
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时尚可以简单到美即可,也可以复杂到一针一线,喜欢团队有条不紊的合作,喜欢一件复杂而庞大的事情一点点从每一个小细节做起的样子,更能感受到时尚圈无法压制的焦虑,这是一旦上场就无法后退的战争,美丽残酷。

48分钟前
  • 胸口碎大石
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时尚、时装,确实不是我的范畴,所以很难看懂这部纪录片,但是一场成功的事件背后各种艰辛倒是通用的,所以,就这样了。

50分钟前
  • 通叔
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裁缝奶奶们好可爱!睿智细腻不失少女心,永持对美好对优雅的渴望,这才是forever 21的真谛。

54分钟前
  • t
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那件灰色印花大衣真是格格不入...

58分钟前
  • 本多
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布景太美,高定的布料和手工、剪裁的确一流。没有一个华丽的外表背后没有一个精神崩溃百感交集一针一线雕琢的背后。http://www.bilibili.com/video/av2918661/

1小时前
  • 女宛心兑
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#最后半小时。I came just for you. 我只为了看观众席中的那位小个子呀!阿姨生快❤

1小时前
  • vivi
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西萌可爱惹

1小时前
  • 塘坑一姐小渡边
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当时没觉得,现在Maria Grazia Chiuri上马之后才发现Raf Dimons的简约风骚有多么高级

1小时前
  • 疯批永不停歇
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